(AMA?) Regards from Poland!⁠⁠

have you been here?

wiem że świata nie zmienię, ale na pewno znajdzie się kilka osób które może zacznie krytycznie patrzeć na niektóre kwestie

I posted answer how people in Poland finds other nations few posts above. But if you ask about my feelings, here it is:

As for today, I feel very sad about people being forced (this way or another) to fight against each other. We have a great time in Poland where our quality of live is historically highest ever, we can afford all the technology, exotic vacations, new cars, nice apartments, average-good medical service and really starting to enjoy our lives in western way. Of course we have some issues with gov but have full freedom of speech, freedom of traveling, can live and work in any contry within EU with no restrictions.

And when I see another war and pictures of young people fragmented by artillery it breaks my heart. These are the same kind of people I work and hang out with but they lives were destroyed with barbaric reason.

My perspective on the conflict is that nobody can enter other nations land if people living there did not attacked them first. We created international organisations to discuss issues between the countries there and it works really fine - there was no major conflict for a longest period in world history in most parts of the planet. What I see is one nation invaded by other nation with no reason to do so. I understand that it might be controversial to post it here and I probably receive banana, but really, nations have borders, borders are approved by international committees that everyone can join.

My perspective on Russian people and Ukrainian people is that I like them bought - why shouldn't I? I'm perfectly convinced if all the people who posted in this thread would meet, we'd probably have a great time, drinking vodka, moonshine and discussing issues like CoD vs BF, Audi vs BMW or WoT tanks superiority.

People in Poland are well known about their hospitality and it is not limited to any nation.

dzięki mordo ;)

So there is conspiracy created by CIA and Zelensky because "9gag comments"?

did I close the border? Do you thing that anyone asked me? Why you look at me through what current government (supported by 30% of citizenships) does? Did I came here and started blaming you of a war crimes?

But really, borders ARE OPEN. Some countries only hold the faster proces of issuing visas and now everyone from Russia has the same procedure as someone from e.g. Nigeria - not the faster one like previously.

I assume there is no proof of that activity but you believe that it is the truth and your faith is stronger than your logic? ;)

dzieki!

and picture you posted is a proof of that?

Don't get me wrong, I'm just asking a question to understand your perspective but - has NATO or EU hurt you someway?

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thank you! all best!

Why countries want to join NATO? To be able to defend itself better against ANY aggression. Look at the countries like Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Serbia and so on. Joining NATO alliance from MY perspective is a guarantee that nobody could attack and takeover you.

Uranus? ;)

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I answered you but my comments were deleted. I have screenshots (because I expected that to happen) but I will probably be banned as I was talking about yo gov restrictions in the field of freedom of speech.

I know a lot from various of sources and I don't care as for today. We have a lot of tough history (like most of the countries). People who did this died long ago and I'm not retarded to blame sons for their fathers crimes.

как вы предполагали, если я поддерживаю какую-то из сторон?

Initially I found your comments quite one-sided but now I noticed that you have a greater perspective for conversation! Not judging, just my thoughts.

Of course I know Patrick Lancaster but I tracked down all his history and I do not find him as unbiased source. I use alooooooot of sources, with OSINT groups included to build my perspective on anything but that's not the main topic.

1) Almost no one in Poland cares about Bandera. Bandera topic started to arise in polish internet in 2014 and we believe it was aimed (by whooo? :) ) to destroy any potential friendship between PL and UKR. It simply doesn't work and will not work. Since the conflict started, over 6.5 milion Ukrainians crossed PL-UKR border and we had NO ISSUE with them. In fact, people in Poland liked Ukrainians very much thanks to that. I was a volunteer on train station when refugees arrived and can not say a single bad word about them. We had a few refugees in our home for a period of time and since then we help them to live and work here. They are very nice people.

2) I mostly agree with you but the major western perspective is that "we should not support the country that invaded other country and the companies should left". The companies are also afraid of being "nationalised" by the state and it would create a major security issues for the company secrets and so on. In western/center Europe we lived peaceful lives with no wars and conflicts in minds. What happened to the country in the region was shocking and struck very hard people living there. You should abandon the feeling that it is against you, it's against the state, government people find aggressive - gov that is treating nuclear war to the world. What should we do? Be polite and bend the knees? Doing business in that environment would be a stupidity. Maybe you find Europe to be leftist-green-liberal weaklings - fine! But people there will not agree to economically support someone who cut gas supplies 6 months before the conflict and sky rocketed its prices in consequence. We were business partners! Russia was a great supplier of oil, gas and coal to the Europe for decades and we were doing business together but prior the conflict supplies stopped and some crisis in Europe emerged. It was done on purpose to make us sit quiet and shut up because someone wants the lands of other country simply "because". Russia acted hostile and started economic war against Europe with NO reason. We were PARTNERS, FRIENDS.

3) Freezing the money? Who would freeze them if we have our own banking system? Also, EU works that way: MPs in EU are chosen by the citizens of every country in general elections. Number of MP is correlated with the number of people living in specific country. Poland have 5th number of MP in European parliament. With two other countries (if I remember the numbers well, let's take Spain and Italy) we can outvote Germany as we have more votes than Germany itself. Also, the RULES are known, we signed the treaties and have an independent European court to decide who is right. Really, there is no single person or country leaders that can decide to "disconnect" us. Of course, if we break the rules we agreed to follow, every country can decide if they want to do business with us.

no one cares, really

as you can see - it is not banned as it is NOT multi.

your opinion is based on the lie you are telling to yourself: "military blocks they are needed to fight". If you really want to understand NATO policy you can (can you?) use wikipedia to read about their goals

you really think that countries in Western Europe were thinking about starting the war against Russia? My dear friend - no. We are very happy with the live we have here, we are thinking about earning more money, buying flats, houses or cars - not taking a gun and shooting anybody for whatever reason.

why you put so much hate in what you post here? Before the conflict started we had negative attitude towards Ukrainians as the one the were coming here to work were not quite polite but mostly aggressive. Things changed when refugees (mostly woman and children, I worked as a voluntary on train station in Feb-March) came. On one hand its a good thing to help anyone who needs your help, it doesnt matter who is a refugee, people in Poland will help anyone in situation like that - it includes you also.

those were examples, we also have translators of your state sponsored media - check  AndromedaV on youtube.

About Ukrainian bombing - do you have some independent (international?) source of those revelations? I'd like to read more about that.

If we talk about Bandera things - do you know that Poles did the same, same time? It's tough part of the history but why should I blame someone who has no connection with the event? Just because he was born within some country where previously other people lived and did something wrong? What's the point? 

lol what? you can check it right now.

I don't want to be rude but you don't understand what you are reading. Please read again what I posted.

on other hand, we are obliged to take refugees - Geneva Convention law and few others.

i serio pytasz czemu nie pisze po polsku na rosyjskojęzycznej stronie? :D

и вы думаете у меня есть польские тв и польские ps4 коробки, чтобы организовать большой заговор и написать пост на пикабу?

Сделал скрин картинки для удаления метаданных

on gogle chrome with translation turned on I typed tags in english. You can check it yourself

we have web like reddit in Poland, quite often people post screenshots of pikabu

пожалуйста - сразу хочу отметить, что я пишу об окружающих меня людях, моей семье и дискуссионных группах, в которых я нахожусь и вещах, которые я наблюдаю. Что ж, последние 20 лет нас в Польше заботило одно — как стать таким же богатым, как Германия. В Польше мы одержимо завидуем процветанию немцев и очень мало интересуемся другими странами. Что касается Вас, то в стране есть память о тяжелых исторических событиях, многие помнят оккупацию до 1990 года, когда в стране находились Ваши войска, военное положение и другие тяжелые испытания. Но молодые поколения (я говорю о людях до 35 лет) уже живут в другой реальности, чем старшие - многие из них работают в транснациональных корпорациях и имеют контакты с другими людьми со всего мира, и эти предубеждения против какой-либо национальности не существует. Конечно, мы иногда смеемся над забавными особенностями некоторых культур, но не потому, что они нам не нравятся, а потому, что нам это нравится. Нас интересуют семья, друзья, работа, айфоны, аирмакси, автомобили, квартиры, хобби, отдых и выходные в городе. Нам наплевать на другие страны.

we also are watching Girkin, Sołowiow, Pieskow and many of people who create "propaganda" in your country.

The difference is that we don't go to prison for 10 or 15 years for opposing the government, mobilisation or saying something about the war as it is "special operation", we can create our own independent media, our internet is not restricted by gov, we can freely travel wherever we want, we choose our politicians by real time polls and many MANY more.

So be careful about thinking what is the truth.

nope, check how polish keyboard looks like in google images. There is no difference to most of the countries

and please tell me, what happens in my country? :D

The perspective is quite simple:
- Russia attacked Ukraine in 2014 and took over 3 regions as Ukraine decided to fight for independence (Euromaidan) - not being a Belarus 2, controlled by Putin
- Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022 and tried to destroy the government to place people they can control

I'm not here trying to convince anyone as I don't care what you think. I came here to answer questions to give you some perspective but then almost everyone started attacking me that way or another. Why are you so unfriendly?

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If you ever come to Warsaw I can give you five ;)

there are about 40 million people in Poland, if 100 people sit for 5 hours a day and leave comments on reddit, 9gag and 5 other places, do you think they will create a fake view of reality? The Internet is just a fragment of reality, apart from news from independent media, there is little truth there, because everyone can write anonymously what they want and how much they want.

Вы знаете, как большинство здесь относится к русским сейчас или год назад?